I'm 66, and I've tried with and without. I agree that it shouldn't be a high-shine white as ++
Been pairing MAC Painterly with some of my singles like Kiko Milano Water Eyeshadows, NARS++
Milani Anti Gravity- not bad btu def not antu gravity
Milani Screen Queen
Oh, how I wish I could buy Maybelline, but here's why I can't +
Milani Anti Gravity- decent
Intwresting.. I love the Milani balms ! And I am 65
Tried one of the Milani Fetish Balm lipsticks - r/o
Milani Baked Blush in Luminoso
Give it a shot. They are reasonably priced. I have one of those creamy round lipsticks in the shade+